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After just eight months in his role, Defence Secretary John Healey is dealing with one of the most challenging in-trays in the cabinet.
He is meeting US counterpart Pete Hegseth in Washington on Thursday, as he works to bridge the gap on how to reach a Ukraine peace deal.
On today’s podcast, Niall Paterson talks to ex-armed forces minister James Heappey who worked with Mr Healey when he was in opposition, and to Malcolm Chalmers who focuses on UK defence and security at the thinktank RUSI about the challenges the defence secretary faces.
Producer: Soila Apparicio
Assistant Producer: Millie Gibson
Editor: Wendy Parker
